Wednesday, April 23, 2008

The Inky Says "Yes" To College Student Debt

(And are you really surprised; by the way, posting is questionable for tomorrow.)

This column appeared over the weekend in The Philadelphia Inquirer, and it was written by Kiley Austin-Young, a sophomore at Penn majoring in English and economics according to the bio.

This individual tells us that his (her?) tuition…

…will eclipse $200,000. This estimate includes full tuition, summer classes, textbooks, housing, food, kegs of Natural Light, and spring break vacations to Aruba.
I assume this person is serious.

Due to my selection of an expensive school, and my overindulgence in certain extracurricular activities, I will enter the labor market saddled in debt. None of my tuition will have been reduced or subsidized by the federal government, nor does it need to be, because the shocking price tag of my privately financed bachelor's degree will some day be worth every penny and more.



The numbers are clear. An average bachelor's degree worker will earn almost $1 million more over the course of a lifetime than a worker with only a high school diploma. An average professional degree holder will realize an additional $2.3 million in income. Even those graduates who earn far less will overcome their educational costs with the added income. Because of these dramatic added gains, students can finance a college education by borrowing against future income.
Now I will be careful in my responses to this individual because this column represents free speech, after all, and this person is not a typical blathering pundit. However (true to what passes for editorial standards at the Inky), there are no citations sourcing the statistics in the column, and no dissenting point of view is acknowledged of course. Also, we really don’t learn anything about this person’s circumstances, mainly how much of the education will be funded by his or her parents or through part-time employment.

So in place of the generalities noted, I’d like to provide this information…

For those who do graduate, the average loan debt was $17,600 in 2004 - $22,581 in the case of private colleges, according to the Center for Economic and Policy Research. (Anya) Kamenetz (an author who has written on this subject) says those averages are too close to the $23,000 maximum that undergraduates may borrow from the federal Stafford loan program over four years.

"If students need to go over that maximum, it means they need to take out private loans with higher interest rates," she says. "That means they'll likely be paying more over a longer period of time, which slows down life even more."

Of the three major variables affecting student debt - tuition costs, the job market, and interest rates - the latter has the gloomiest forecast, says Jacqueline King, director of the American Council on Education's Center for Policy Analysis.
Please note that the Christian Science Monitor article was written in 2006; this is an update with much of the same information, though the job market has declined further over the past two years and credit has worsened because of the subprime mortgage meltdown.

And by the way, here’s something else for the Inquirer author to consider…

Income for teachers is simply too low for many graduates, according to a report released last month by the State Public Interest Research Group. The study found that more than a third of borrowers who graduate from private, four-year colleges would face "unmanageable" debt on a starting teacher's salary, meaning they would need to set aside more than 8 percent of their pay to cover student loans.

More than half of black and Latino graduates would fall into this level of "unmanageable" debt, set by the lending industry.

Accumulating loan debt even pushes back many of life's milestones, according to a survey that (college board analyst Sandy) Baum conducted in 2002 for Nellie Mae, a major student lender, which is now a subsidiary of Sallie Mae. The report found that 38 percent of graduates held off buying their first house because of student loans, 14 percent put off marriage, and 21 percent delayed having children.

"We are the first society in history to take our brightest and start them out in debt," says Allan Carlson, president of the socially conservative Howard Center in Rockford, Ill. "That's just stupid public policy. We should encourage them to grow, not hold them back."
So that means that graduates will be saddled with debt and looking for employment in science or business professions to the exclusion of all else (nothing wrong with that, but we need teachers too, as well as people in communications and other “liberal arts” professions) in an economy which, for the most part, doesn’t generate good jobs any more (is it necessary to link to Paul Craig Roberts again?), particularly now that we are in a recession.

Well, at least this tells you how you can protect student loan funds from garnishment in the event that you have to file for bankruptcy (important if you ever hope to complete your education under these circumstances, of course).

But in spite of all of this, Austin-Young tells us…

If the many benefits of a college education continue to outpace the costs, subsidies are not needed. Precious public funds are better spent increasing opportunities for the disadvantaged, those who - from a flaw in the educational system or a broken family life - will not even finish high school.
Actually, after reading this elitist drivel (blaming the Inquirer more for allowing it to see the light of day than the author for expressing his or her point of view), I can see where Austin-Young should feel secure in his (her?) job prospects. This person has the makings of a first-class Inky columnist (and if that isn’t a tongue-in-cheek remark, I don’t know what is).

9 comments:

daveawayfromhome said...

Everytime I read one of these articles "explaining" how I should accept the huge debt for my education because "it will more than pay off", I cant help but think:

If this is such a great investment, why doesnt the nation invest in it's colleges? If it's good for an individual to invest in a college education, then it's got to be even better for society to invest in the college education of its people.

Maybe I've missed something...

...Oh yeah; the Republican credo: "I've got mine, so fuck you".

doomsy said...

Yeah, isn't that just great? Actually, what I see mainly are columns from Repug-simpatico pundits wondering why college is even necessary at all? All the more reason for those in their late teens, 20s, 30s to enlist to try and get educated as far as their concerned, though of course you run the substantial risk of getting shipped off to the Middle East and coming home in a box instead.

Aisle19.com #100795 said...

The reality of it all is this. In the next 15 years the largest industry in the United States will be the service industry and since there are so many people not graduating, we surely will not have a shortage of burger flippers. But don't worry, there will be room for all you guys that will need another job to pay off student loans.

Sure you'll pay off your loans eventually, but at what cost. On average, it takes about 10 or more years to pay off a loan. If you are lucky enough to find a job in your given profession, you'll still have to get a second or third job to even accomplish this. Let's face it everything is going up except for wages. Gas prices, food prices and etc. Gas prices alone are causing people to pawn their valuables.

If you want to pay off your loans, plus have an income on the side you must tie your money to some type of distribution of products or services that people want. If you don't, you might as well get ready for the soup line or move to China. From what I heard, they are in their "industrial age" and people are becoming millionaires overnight. Starting your own business is the best way to become financially independent and pay off this outstanding debt.

Small internet businesses are the best! Most college students or parents don't know that they can actually set up an internet business that can be run from school. Often these businesses are tax deductable and can pay for their entire schooling.

Instead of spending money on the latest ipod, iphone and all that other stuff, they should try investing in something that will truly teach their kids about the realities of life: hard work + smart work = success.

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alexpasch said...

"If this is such a great investment, why doesnt the nation invest in it's colleges? If it's good for an individual to invest in a college education, then it's got to be even better for society to invest in the college education of its people.

Maybe I've missed something..."

We could spend 200k on tuition for every single person, but we're still going to need burger flippers. Making the decision to pay for college a personal one means that only those who believe they will use it to get a higher salary will actually pay tuition costs. This is called market efficiency. The point Mr. Austin-Young is making is that society would be better off spending its resources fixing market inefficiencies, and college tuition is not one of them (or at least far down the list). Europe is trying to move away from this model because they see the problems it is causing for their higher-level education; services are redirected from the poor and offered to the middle class, who are the ones that end up taking advantage of the subsidized tuition rate.

doomsy said...

I think it's kind of pathetic to assume that the only people who want to pay for college are those who want to use it to get a higher salary for themselves (again, though, that's fine for those who do and it's a worthy goal). As I noted in the post, we're going to need people with "arts"-related degrees to work as teachers and in other jobs that either don't pay much by comparison or do after years and years of service. Does subsidizing their education in part then represent a "market inefficiency"?

Barack Obama is at least one example of a person of success who received a "hand up" this way. Who knows whether or not he'd be where he is today were that not the case (and that's why he wants to make most Americans eligible for a $4,000 college tuition credit). And by investing in people, maybe we'll be able to come up with a way to allocate funds and services so we don't have to face a decision like the one noted concerning Europe (and maybe we'd be able to invest BOTH in people and other services were it not for the budget butchery of Dubya and the Repugs, which is a whole other story I know).

And thought I don't mean to disrespect anybody by saying this, we'll always have burger flippers regardless of what we do (or don't do) to enable more people to go to college. That shouldn't enter into the equation at all on this issue as far as I'm concerned.

Aisle19.com #100795 said...

We do have subsidized education to some extent. It is in the form of tax breaks. Some of those breaks have disappeared with the changing of the presidents and that will always be the case. But to fully subsidize college education and have it work would probably mean putting some other criteria in place due to the expense. Would our system have to be like others where you would be tracked early on and based on a test taken in elementary school that would determine the direction of your life forever?

Higher education is admirable and sure there are people that strive to achieve that goal on the basis or reaching a "Plato-type" hierarchy or to attain monetarily menial positions but be impactful to society. Unfortunately, that is the few. There aren't many Mother Teresa's out there.

Neither students nor parents pay in excess of $50,000+ for just 4 years of college and expect a return that will result in a less than desirable yearly income.

But the reality of it all is that it is happening now and in great numbers. Why do most Americans have 2 or even 3 jobs? Why are our retirees having to return to work to only find themselves working as a Walmart greeter. It's nothing wrong with doing that, if that's what you want to do. But "come-one" after working 40 years, do you think that most people are that bored or have nothing else better to do than to work an overnight shift or get up at 4:00 am to get to a job that pays minimum wage?

In society today there are ways of investing in your people, but people have to be willing to invest in themselves. Fulling subsidizing a college education would help to alleviate one problem, but in turn would create another. In all fairness, it could work but while we are debating this issue what about today and what about the millions that are caught in that student loan trap? What do they do now?

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I am an RN and have been working in Public Health/Local Government job part-time for the last six years. Because my job is part-time I do not qualify for any public service or RN loan forgiveness-this totally STINKS! I am part-time, with no benefits, might I add because they do not have the money to hire me for at least 32 hours per week.

StartABiz said...

Our country is entering a depression. Getting a job that will last, and that will actually put into affect a bachelors degree, is not going to be easy to find. But be honest with yourself. Do you really need a bachelors degree to be a dance instructor or research assistant for some firm?

I'd understand going to study to be a lawyer or doctor. But to be a cook, carpenter, landscaper, etc. it's a waste of time and money to go to college.

Most of my friends who went to college said it was a waste of their time and they are still trying to pay off their student loan. The only friend I have who hasn't told me this is studying to become a vet, which she will not legally become until 8 years from now (and she's been at this for 2 already!). 10 YEARS??!! I'm sorry for her parents who are paying for this.

My life is too short to live it up a bit and collect a pile of debt that I will spend the rest of my life trying to pay off.

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Not going to college DOESN'T mean you are stupid and it doesn't mean you'll be poor! Heck, George Washington didn't go to college, and he was the 1st (and most likely, best) president we ever had.

Colleges are businesses. They are in the business of making money. They are good at marketing too with scare tactic -- "you'll never be rich" "you'll never get a good paying job" "you won't have a cozy office and desk!!".

Don't fall for their lie that you will not be able to earn money if you don't have a piece of paper that has their name on it!

Start your own business. It's not rocket science, but it will demand character.

No more boss worries, no more debt problems, and you can start it quickly!